Talk:Baal/@comment-26896603-20151026034704/@comment-7620285-20151027150454

"I use a single buffer, Hades, nuller and 2 unleashers."

well that's the problem. for your team strategy, Icicle and Baal are definitely "the same" since you don't have any way to  favoring certain skills over the other. your team will easily get too many or too few buffs activated. a team that finds Baal slightly more useful than Icicle is Team buffer, 2 unleashers, 2 nullers-- because once the 2 nullers are out of activations, the skill unleashes favor getting a null activated over a buff.

however, the difference *is* extremely marginal (you can run the battle with Baal slightly better using only 2 buffs in the battle than compared to Icicle because of achieving max defense). i have been doing observations more carefully, and having just 2 procs from Icicle will generally make a normal max ATK GUR (no elemental advantage or opposite deal around 25 mil instead of getting close to 30 mil.... so in either case you pretty much want Baal or Icicle to reach 3 procs, but Baal's buff does certainly reach max defense in just 2.