Talk:Baal/@comment-26896603-20151026034704/@comment-7620285-20151026045841

with Icicle, ATK achieves 999999 with just 2 buffs, but DEF is not maximized until a 3rd buff.

i also think with just 2 buffs, awakened GUR cards with max ATK achieve max damage (30 mil) too. this means a Baal use only needs 2 buffs to reach both max ATK and DEF, and it leaves 1 extra unleash available to try activate a nuller....