Talk:Lilim/@comment-173.175.219.130-20150506050609/@comment-7620285-20150706151035

Lilim existed before practical team buffers existed. Back then, the only team buffers were Uriel, Parvati, and people even argued using High Vampire / Queen of Pirates over these battle-start-only cards.

Early on, "Archwitch Field" didn't exist either; the enemies actually just used their real skills, like Alice had a chance of turn-skipping you on her first turn and could destroy n00b parties before they lifted finger but then it just was a long, slow bashing battle. AW health was probably only around 800K but since there weren't too many attack buffers, most players could only solo AW with Lilim, Snow White, or Yuki Onna. R cards / Medals were also harder to collect as well, so maxing cards was pretty difficult.

Then the game progressed and we saw the introduction of team buffers who could proc any time during battle, AW Field, and then *good* turn-skippers. I think once Reindeer Girl was introduced, Lilim got to shine once again since you could create a team that could reliably prevent AW Field from destroying your team buff and Lilim buffs.